Hi,
sorry for writing in english, but my russian is not too good.
First of all - hi to all, this is my first post on your forum. You are probably the only forum in Europe about Dodge Ram.
I have 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 quad cab.
My question is - what is the law in Russia in case of headlights and taillights - is it permitted to keep original symmetrical headlights and red blinkers in taillights?
If no - what have you done to make it legal?
As far as I know there is no european - assymetrical headlights available at Dodge dealers.
You can write your answers in russian - I will understand most of it.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
Привет.
В России пока никто не вводил огрничение на светотехнику, была предпринята только попытка, но пока оставили всё, как есть. Единственная проблема - невозможно пройти техосмотр по головному свету т.к. световой пучок не европейский, не имеющий четкой границы. Правда это никоим образом не мешает обычной ежедневной эксплуатации.
Hi,
sorry for writing in english, but my russian is not too good.
First of all - hi to all, this is my first post on your forum. You are probably the only forum in Europe about Dodge Ram.
I have 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 quad cab.
My question is - what is the law in Russia in case of headlights and taillights - is it permitted to keep original symmetrical headlights and red blinkers in taillights?
If no - what have you done to make it legal?
As far as I know there is no european - assymetrical headlights available at Dodge dealers.
You can write your answers in russian - I will understand most of it.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
What are you trying to solve? Driving Dodge Ram in EU or coming to Russia in a Ram?
If you're coming to Russia, no worries, there are no checks for lights compliance at the border. You will have troubles with the headlights if you decide to get the Ram registered in Russia (keeping it in Russia for 6 months or longer).
There's nothing about the red blinkers (indicators) in the local laws though.
Hi,
sorry for writing in english, but my russian is not too good.
First of all - hi to all, this is my first post on your forum. You are probably the only forum in Europe about Dodge Ram.
I have 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 quad cab.
My question is - what is the law in Russia in case of headlights and taillights - is it permitted to keep original symmetrical headlights and red blinkers in taillights?
If no - what have you done to make it legal?
As far as I know there is no european - assymetrical headlights available at Dodge dealers.
You can write your answers in russian - I will understand most of it.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
Hi,
sorry for writing in english, but my russian is not too good.
First of all - hi to all, this is my first post on your forum. You are probably the only forum in Europe about Dodge Ram.
I have 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 quad cab.
My question is - what is the law in Russia in case of headlights and taillights - is it permitted to keep original symmetrical headlights and red blinkers in taillights?
If no - what have you done to make it legal?
As far as I know there is no european - assymetrical headlights available at Dodge dealers.
You can write your answers in russian - I will understand most of it.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
What are you trying to solve? Driving Dodge Ram in EU or coming to Russia in a Ram?
If you're coming to Russia, no worries, there are no checks for lights compliance at the border. You will have troubles with the headlights if you decide to get the Ram registered in Russia (keeping it in Russia for 6 months or longer).
There's nothing about the red blinkers (indicators) in the local laws though.
Ну а теперь для нас грешных можно по-русски? Любопытно же😆
Ну а теперь для нас грешных можно по-русски? Любопытно же😆
Спрашиваю, что он пытается решить и отвечаю, что если машину не будет регистрировать в России то можно не заморачиваться. Про задний свет ответил, что нет у нас таких законов.
As one of you asked - yes, I'm from Poland.
Next thing - I am not going to go to Russia in near future, but I haven't found better place to ask than your forum.
I cannot write in russian because you wouldn't understand me at all 😄
From your answers I suppose that you have same problem with registration as I have. I was looking for european version headlights with european homologation ('E' mark), but no luck.
Most of you don't realize the fact, that when you will have a road accident you may have problems with insurance - I am trying to avoid that problem.
Yesterday a cop almost took away my registration when he saw original lighs without homologation - that's another problem - my luck was that there was an accident nearby and he had to go immediately.
Or maybe you have found replacements with european homologation and 'E' mark?
Regards,
Tom
As one of you asked - yes, I'm from Poland.
Next thing - I am not going to go to Russia in near future, but I haven't found better place to ask than your forum.
I cannot write in russian because you wouldn't understand me at all 😄
From your answers I suppose that you have same problem with registration as I have. I was looking for european version headlights with european homologation ('E' mark), but no luck.
Most of you don't realize the fact, that when you will have a road accident you may have problems with insurance - I am trying to avoid that problem.
Yesterday a cop almost took away my registration when he saw original lighs without homologation - that's another problem - my luck was that there was an accident nearby and he had to go immediately.
Or maybe you have found replacements with european homologation and 'E' mark?
Regards,
Tom
mozesz pisac na polskim. rozumiem i mowie.
co do reflektorow u nas szczegolnych problemow nie ma dlatego nikt i nie mysli o to. Moze byс sa Chiny reflektory. nalezy spytac o to.
Dzieki Shov za wsparcie.
Szukalem na ebay'u, pytalem u dealera, nie ma europejskiej wersji _z_homologacja_ - a za brak homologacji policjant chcial mi zabrac dowod rejestracyjny.
Wyslalem zapytanie do 50 firm produkujacych oswietlenie samochodowe i te, ktore odpowiedzialy, to napisaly, ze koszt uruchomienia produkcji liczony jest w setkach tysiecy zlotych. Wyslalem tez zapytanie do komendy wojewodzkiej policji - zeby mi napisali co moge zrobic w tej sprawie - czekam na ich odpowiedz.
Chce uniknac klopotow na drodze - w razie wypadku firma ubezpieczeniowa moze odmowic wyplaty odszkodowania, dla mnie to nic, ale jakbym mial zaplacic odszkodowanie dla ofiary, to do konca zycia bym to splacal. Zabranie dowodu rejestracyjnego przez policje to przy tym drobiazg.
Pozdrawiam,
Tomek
Now in english for those who don't speak polish.
I looked on ebay, asked at Dodge dealers - there is no european version of Dodge Ram and that's why there is no european headlights and taillights. On ebay you can buy euro version, but it doesn't have homologation and 'E' mark. I asked about 50 companies producing automotive lighting about producing such lights for me (for example 100 pcs), but the cost is too big - starting of the production costs few hundred thousand $, so no way for it. I also asked by email my local road police headquarters - what can I do in this case, but no response (they usually answer in 1 month).
I don't want any troubles after an accident (I didn't have any until now, but who knows) - isurance company can deny covering damages, but worse thing is, that when I will be prosecuted to pay the victim the money by myself. It would ruin me. Taking off my registration is not a problem in such case.
Regards,
Tom
Томаш.
Прикрути, если так уж беспокоишься, от европеизированного японского пикапа фонари.
Другой способ - успокоиться на счет страховки и ехать как есть.
Хотя навесь временные фонари от чего-нибудь другого, на кронштейне самодельном приделай.
I forgot - there is a way to make it legal.
I can buy universal H4 reflector which has position lights, low beam and high beam. It has 'E' mark and homologation. The only problem is that such reflector is ugly and my Ram will look like a piece of sh*t. Same situation is with rear lights - I can buy lights that are used on trailers, but it also will look ugly.
So - I'd rather stay with this original ones and will have to pay few $ to the cop next time.
Regards,
Tom
Есть еще вариант с линзой - модулем Hella. Его удобно монтировать и он дает европейский ближний и дальний свет.
И тебе стоит пообщаться с немецким Dodge Ram клубом. У них эта проблема еще острее, а они ездят. Значит есть рабочий вариант решения проблемы.
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There is still a variant with a lens - module Hella. It is convenient for mounting and it gives the European near and far light.
And you should communicate to German Dodge Ram club. At them this problem even more sharply, and they go. Means there is a working variant of the decision of a problem.
This will look damn ugly.
Thanks for the Hella suggestion.
I don't know why, but I haven't found german Ram forum - maybe because I don't know any german words other than "hende hoch" 😛
Regards,
Tom
I know about them. But there is a problem - they have only american homologation - SAE and DOT approval. I have found chinese factory that makes that reflectors (typically for Ram) and asked them how much would it cost to order EU version - the cost of homologation only is 17k$ in case of headlights and 9k$ in case of taillights, plus the price of the reflector itself of course. I should order 1 000 pcs to make the deal worth it. At the moment I cannot afford it.
Regards,
Tom
